dady5000 says:

I think the HOPO-cidal one is actually one FOR it, since HMX are huge Valve fans and have talked about their love for L4D in the past. That’s not one that someone could normally coincidentally make up.

Also, the time and effort to make all of those logos is quite odd for someone who would want to make a fake list.

I say MOST of these are true. With maybe a few that will get tossed before the game ships.

Brian Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 1:15 pm

I’m pretty sure it’s a Dead Rising reference, not L4D. 53,596 was the population of the town the game took place in, and it was how many zombies you needed to kill for an acievement (easily done by taking a few delivery vans into the underground tunnels).

That is a lot of effort for a fake list. But I am still doubtful.

Brian Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 2:45 pm

Sorry. I read the later comments and learned that they both reference it. My bad.

The Witticus says:

There’s no achievements for having a 7 person band. That was the most hyped feature of E3, so I’m calling this fake or impartial.

dady5000 says:

I say, this is real or MOSTLY real. The time it would take to put those logos together and actually the HOPO-Cidal one is more of a check FOR it, since I could see HMX doing it because they are such huge Valve fans.

Mcmax3000 says:

I’ve never seen that site post a fake achievement list before. I’ve always been led to believe that they get their achievements from pages on Xbox.com but I could be wrong.

Plus, as much as I’d love to believe that nobody put the time & effort into making 62 fake achievement images, I’ve been on the internet way too long not to know what some people will do for a pointless hoax.

You make good points though. I was definitely surprised by some of the achievements in the list.

I’m taking a wait & see approach. I’m still leaning towards the ‘it’s real’ camp but not by much.

Alex says:

I agree that it’s fake (mainly because I ‘don’t much like’ the list), but there are a couple which would be cool to see in the real thing.

Connect your Rock Band 3 Band with rockband.com at http://www.rockband.com – hopefully they’ll do more with the website this time around (really, the RB website should be the place to go for stats, not Keldon)

Beat all of the free downloadable songs for Rock Band. – great, get people downloading

Beat 5 songs from any band that has had Dave Grohl as a member. – technically not worded properly, but the only ‘amusing’ achievement on there.

RockBandAide Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:27 am

They’ve already said that there will be major interaction between the site and the game. John Drake at E3 said that you can make a playlist on the site and go home and play it.

Myr Herder Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 2:48 pm

I’m looking forward to new group photo options. Maybe now we can choose instruments in the picture? Custom backgrounds? Adjust clothing in the editor?

ramedy says:

I’m not sure what you’re getting at with #3 evidence against. The Left 4 Dead achievement was a joke referencing the Dead Rising “Zombie Genocider” achievement, which was for killing 53,594 zombies. So it might actually make sense to keep the joke going.

That being said, DLC achievements don’t sound right at all.

zigs says:

If it’s a fake, it’s an incredibly good one. I’m totally willing to believe it.

The humour in the achievements is incredibly Harmonix in style. Look at the Overdrive achievements, that seems like such a perfect HMX-style joke to me. Perfectly meta too.

I’m not sure if I like the list, some fairly bland achievements in there, but I can believe it’s legit. Though that is a valid point about the stock images, does seem to be a bunch of BotB images there.

RockBandAide Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:08 am

The old Overdrive achievement was Bachman Turner Overdrive, and now they’re just doing “You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet?” Seems highly unoriginal and convenient.

zigs Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:17 am

Doesn’t seem unoriginal or convenient to me, seems like an extended joke. Another reference/joke on their own original joke, which seems very Harmonix.

SebastianSB Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:08 am

I don’t love the list either, but I agree that it’s almost definitely real. x360a posts rumored lists all the time, but as rumors. This is posted as an official list and not once have I seen one of their lists be wrong in the years I’ve been on their site.

RockBandAide Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:25 am

That’s because they take them down once they find out they’re fake…

zigs Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:51 am

You said that on Twitter too mate, but I’ve never, ever seen it happen. I’ve never heard anyone else mention it either, and I know a lot of people who use the site, even some former staff. Have you got any evidence that x360a have done that before? Because I’m pretty curious about it

RockBandAide Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 12:10 pm

Of course not. That’s what happens when something is deleted. =P

zigs Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

Come on mate, that’s such a cop out! It’s all well and good claiming that a site operates in a certain way like that, but without any evidence to back it up it’s purely speculative.

That would be like me saying that RBA frequently posts Guitar Hero news, but removes it before anyone reads it.

SebastianSB Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

I’d say just give up, zigs. RBA’s being pretty stubborn and expects proof that’s literally impossible to achieve without HMX confirming it or the game releasing. If he wants to doubt a website with a spotless history based on an assumption that he made and has absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support it then let him.

RockBandAide Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

I think I’ve presented my evidence pretty clearly (the post above). I’m still waiting for someone to provide a link that supports the validity of the list.

SebastianSB Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

No, you’ve provided absolutely no evidence against the list. You’ve only listed a bunch of things you don’t like.

Side note, how did you reply to me? Nothing below zigs’s twitter message has a reply button for me.

RockBandAide Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

It’s my site. I can reply wherever I like!

The post, and subsequent comments, are filled with reasons why this list looks fake. The case AGAINST rests, your honor.

T Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

C’mon, that is such a copout arguement.

I accuse you of deleting articles including insulting and libelous comments aimed at John Drake and Dan Teasedale. Prove that you have not deleted these articles from your site.

RockBandAide Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

…an argument nonetheless.

And don’t throw accusations like that around. You won’t like the results.

dady5000 says:

Where’s the “Some Fake Some Real” option?

Xzyliac says:

Yeah I’m on the fence. However I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe they’d throw DLC Achievements in. I think they’ve been successful enoough in their DLC that they could toss in a few and be confident that people will buy it.

It might hint at certain packs (the Queen Pack and one if not both of the Nine Inch Nails Packs respectively) getting upgraded.

Actually I kinda like the idea of DLC Achievements. I could see HMX tossing some inside joke Achievements like the Dave Grohl thing. However I could see them doing it as a joke Achievement.

All that said there’s no Bladder of Steel so I’m leaning towards fake.

Sorixas says:

Everyone is saying “There’s no Bladder of Steel successor”. What if Harmonix just cut it from the system’s achievements list, and it’s actually part of the achievements list in the Career?

SebastianSB Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:25 am

I pretty much figured the same.

RockBandAide Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:33 am

Definitely possible.

Xenigma says:

Normally I trust the achievement lists on xbox360achievements.org, and many of these sound very plausible. Dave Grohl Band, in particular, sounds totally legit as a DLC achievement given how he’s become such an inside joke among the RB community. However, I’m bugged by the lack of the “Bladder of Steel” follow-up, and that Perfect Drug achievement better be fake, because it’s all sorts of awful. I’m calling fake, at least partially.

Plutarch says:

I expected the pro-mode achievements…but the DLC ones are the ones that make me call bullshit on this. The Perfect Drug one is totally random, it doesn’t even have a catchy name!

And also, why are so many focused on Hard mode instead of Expert? That’s just odd.

comp says:

I’m fairly certain that it’s real, on instinct alone. We’ll see, I suppose.

Rob says:

The “Perfect Drug” one is a big red flag. Wasn’t that DLC around before Rock Band 2 was released? I find it very hard to believe that this game would have an achievement for DLC that was released years ago.

Britten says:

FAKE. you know why? NEEDS MOAR MUSE!

Whizzer says:

Can’t imagine this is real. 1250 points, DLC achievements, strange names, barely any Expert achievements and all the rest. I’d be very surprised and disappointed if Harmonix would turn this sloppy on this aspect of the game.

libregkd says:

Saying its real until I get proof otherwise. They got their list directly from xbox.com. So unless someone hacked into xbox.com to upload these achievements then this is the legit list.

RockBandAide Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 1:28 pm

Where’s YOUR proof that they got it from Xbox.com? You can’t have proof that it’s real without proof. That’s what proof is. Proof!

libregkd Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 3:20 pm

The fact that their submission guidelines specifically state that any info needs to come from xbox.com’s servers, they’ve never posted a fake list because of that requirement. If its been creditable for the last few years, I hardly see any reason to doubt them now. Besides this isn’t the first time achievements have been leaked for Rock Band, we knew about the achievement list for the Metal Track pack before it was even officially confirmed!

I actaully find it rather hilarious that the RB community is so divided on this. Hell; this is the first time I’ve ever seen people suspicious of an Achievement list. Either way; we’ll soon find out its true soon enough.

zigs Reply:
August 12th, 2010 at 3:45 pm

Here’s a quote from the Submission guidelines on x360a (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=58152)

“3. New Achievement Lists that are all text will be denied. New lists that are stolen from other sites will be denied. If you have found an achievement list, you MUST give us the xbox.com link for the list OR a link to someone’s profile who has played the game where the list is ACTIVE. To add a game to the site, we must be able to view the achievement list via an xbox.com link. That is how we import the achievements and that is the only way you will receive credit of any kind. The process is automated and only triggered by an xbox.com link, so submitting anything else is useless and will not get you credit.”

Brian says:

I see too many conflicting tenses (Do vs. Did). Don’t achievements usually say “do this” (future tense) when the achievement is locked, then “did this” (past tense) after it’s unlocked? I could see this kind of inconsistancy in a fake list of an early draft. A published list from xbox.com should be consistant.

Also, is a “Mile High Club” reference appropriate?

Quina Reply:
August 13th, 2010 at 8:35 am

The person they got the achievements from could have unlocked some of them. You can change the description of an achievement after it unlocks.

skydog says:

Very fake, but would be funny if some were true

IvoryDoll says:

I think that this is partially real.

The DLC achievements are actually very smart, gain more profit by tying an achievement to DLC. I know that I would probably fork out the MS points for some extra achievements. Think about how many people buy game expansions with additional achievements…People LOVE achievements. Plus new instruments and game modes of course they will tie achievements to those.

argyle says:

I think this could be real but I’m hoping it’s not, save for a few of them. There are a lot of very lame achievments in this list.

No 100% on drums or expert vocals? I mean, are they really going so stupidly casual that they’re now giving achievements for playing on easy? Sadly, I could actually see this being true. Seems to me HMX has gotten the completely backwards notion that reducing competitive incentive creates motivation to play more often.

DeskLaser says:

If someone else has made this point, I apologize. About the “spritual successor to Bladder of Steel,” we still have no idea what the road challenges will include. I do think I remember reading where one of them might be about 3 hours long, so that could be it right there.

Nick says:

I am hoping this is fake because this is a very unsatisfying achievement list. This is a must buy game for me but so far I really don’t care for the set list or the achievement list. I hope that this is fake and that they add better songs to the on disc set list. I don’t want to buy the game just to download the DLC. I don’t even like the DLC achievements for this because to be honest, I’m not a real big Nine Inch Nails fan. Having DLC achievements in Rock Band is a bad idea. It’s will just turn into a competition for big bands to try to force their music on you and make you feel compelled to buy their songs just so you can get some extra gamerscore. It really seems like favoritism coming from Harmonix.

Jordan says:

While when I first looked at this, I thought it was fake, I just noticed something that could give it a little merit.

There are two achievements that mention “spades.”

No one knew about spades until a couple of days ago.

Either this guy is really fast or this is real.