DLC Review 9/25 (Green Day’s Oh Love + 4 Green Day: Rock Band tracks)
Here’s this weeks review and playthrough for the Green Day DLC. Included below are playthrough videos of the DLC from the always awesome thenewnoelisoncruz. Definitely check out and subscribe to his YouTube channel!
All tracks are 160 MSP ($1.99). Pro Guitar/Bass charts are noted below where applicable, and can be purchased for an additional 80 MSP ($0.99).
Review is after the jump.
Green Day – Oh Love
NOTE: The preview video got WMG’d. Sorry about that.
If I had to compare this guitar part to something, I’d compare it to Rocksmith’s Dynamic Difficulty. The riff starts out fairly easy (although it IS fairly easy for the whole song), but then as it gets played more and more, more notes start to come in. It goes from RY/GY/Space/G/Gpace/G/Space to RY/GY/Space/G/G/Space/G/G, as well as adding in HOPOs occasionally. The song has also got a solo that, while isn’t TOO hard, is still a tiny challenge. It’s actually pretty fun, although a dedicated guitarist could probably get a sightread FC of this.
Save for the solo on guitar, bass was more fun. The main riff consists of a note with a couple HOPOs that go across the fretboard. The chorus mostly does the same thing, but going in to it there’s some moderately paced alt-strumming that can break your combo if you’re not careful.
Drums are easily the strongest instrument on this song. The guitar, bass, and keys were all fairly easy, and I guess that this drum part is too, but it was filled with notes across the toms, snare, and cymbals with some bass pedal thrown in too. If you’re a super good drummer, you might not find this hard, but if you’re someone like me who’s not bad, but not the best, you’ll love playing this one!
Keys are just some long sustains throughout the whole song. It’s not fun at all and I don’t recommend this to anyone who’s interested in a fun keys part.
Vocals are actually pretty fun. Not the hardest in the world, but there’s some pitch changes that may catch you off guard if you’re not careful. Harmonies aren’t that great. They only really come in for a couple lines in the chorus, and I was able to get Double Awesome on them by singing into two mics.
This song doesn’t play THAT well in Blitz. The keys will almost certainly cause you to lose your multiplier. This is because they’re all just sustains. The other instruments aren’t that exciting, either. Super Guitar is the best bet on this song, due to the fact that there’s a guitar solo here.
Green Day – Brain Stew/Jaded
This is listed as being one of the hardest guitar songs in Green Day Rock Band, and maybe in comparison to other songs on the disc, it is, but as far as being a Rock Band song, it’s not that hard. The song is fun to play, until you get to Jaded. Up until then, the song is pretty easy, with some alt-strum parts put in after a few runs of the verse. Jaded, however, is just weirdly paced fast strumming. I didn’t like it, but I’m sure there are some people who will.
Bass is infinitely better than guitar. During Brain Stew, it’s pretty much the same, save for the lack of chords and muted strumming. The reason it’s so much better, is because Jaded is actually fun to play here. It’s not the mess of strummed chords that it’s six-stringed brother brought forth, instead opting to go for an actual pattern. It’s also a really fun bassline, and I recommend picking it up.
Drums follow a common theme of this song. Fun during Brain Stew, but not so much once Jaded comes in. During Brain Stew it’s not that hard, although someone who’s a beginner might get tripped up by the bass pedal, but once it gets to Jaded it just becomes “Hey! You thought you were going to have a nice song that you could chill back and relax with, but guess what? LOADS OF NOTES NOW!”. I didn’t like it, but I’m sure there are people who will.
I found vocals to be difficult during the Brain Stew part, but once it got to Jaded, I was able to get “Awesome” on everything. Harmonies are practically non-existent, save for doubling up the “On my own, here I go” and “Going straight will get you nowhere” lines. Not recommended if you’re a harmonizer.
In Blitz this song plays pretty well. Super Guitar is probably the best instrument to use, but Super Drums could also be good because the drums do get pretty crazy during Jaded. There aren’t any parts that will be difficult to level, if you make sure to keep on top of them.
Green Day – Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)
Guitar was not what I was expecting it to be. I was expecting (and hoping for) a riff very similar to that of Weezer’s My Name is Jonas. Something that’s a long stream of challenging HOPOs. Nope, that’s not what it is. Instead the riff is all strums, put across a few different frets. It was fun, but disappointing. The rest of the song is just a bunch of alt strummed chords.
Bass was one of the most boring bass parts I’ve played all year. It’s the strings section of the song, because there isn’t any actual bass. If it were up to me, I would have just not charted anything to the bass and kept the song as just guitar and vocals.
This is one of those songs that everybody seems to know, and because of this, it’s one of those songs that everybody’s going to want to sing. Even if it has no harmonies, I wouldn’t be surprised if everybody sang along at a Rock Band party. The actual vocals aren’t that hard, so this is a good song to just kick back and relax with.
This is fun to play in Blitz, until the bass kicks in. The bass line is just long sustains, and that will make it very hard to level everything up. The best track powerup here is hands down Super Guitar.
Green Day – Minority
Guitar was pretty fun. It’s intro, and outro, is similar to what I was hoping for from Good Riddance. The main chunk of the song is some alt-strummed chords, followed by a few slower chords. It’s a pretty decent guitar part to play, but it’s not the best.
Bass claims to be harder than guitar, but frankly, I just don’t see it. It doesn’t have the alt strumming throughout, although there is a bit during the heavy-ish parts. Don’t get me wrong, it was still fun. I just think the tiering is bad.
Drums are actually quite challenging, for an easier song. It’s filled with odd timing of the bass pedal, and loads of rolls. In the middle of the song there is a part that consists solely of snare rolls and bass pedal. It’s quite hard. It’s a great song if you want a good challenge.
This song has the best harmonies of the Green Day Rock Band songs released this week. They double, and sometimes even triple, up the lead vocal, and toward the end, some of them go off and do their own thing. This is great for harmonizers, and you should pick this up if you don’t already have it.
Of all the songs released this week that are from Green Day: Rock Band, this one plays the best in Blitz. Every instrument is that great combination of “loads of notes, none too hard” that’s really good for Blitz. Once again, Super Guitar is the way to go here.
Green Day – Warning
Guitar on this song just goes to prove that easy songs can still be fun. The majority of the song consists of the riff, which isn’t too fast, but can still provide a bit of a challenge to someone who’s not overtly skilled. It consists of single notes that go across the frets, with the occasional chord thrown in. If you’re looking for a song that’s not too hard, but still fun, you should pick this up.
Bass was pretty much identical to guitar, save for the fact that guitar has chords. Fortunately, this means it was just as fun as guitar. I recommend picking this one up if you’re a bassist looking for something fun that won’t cause you to feel like a bowling ball was dropped on your fingers afterwards.
The drum part for the most part, it just a standard rock beat. Nothing too hard, but I personally found it fun. It’s got a few fills here and there, but overall, nothing too hard. If you’re looking for an easier song that’s not mind numbingly boring, then pick this up.
Vocals are pretty fun. They’re not too hard, but there’s a fair amount of moving between low notes, and higher notes. It’s pretty fun to sing, and I’d look into this if I were a vocalist.
Save for vocals, the instruments here are pretty much the same in Blitz. They’re all pretty good to play, and really, it doesn’t really matter what Super instrument you use (although there are a lot of double notes on drums, so you might be best going with Super Drums).
Pick of the week: Oh Love
What should you buy: Oh Love
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*Obligatory “ONE F***ING MINUTE!!!” joke
Seriously, awesome timing on that.
Nice review, but the one thing I’d like to say is that Guitar and Bass aren’t really on the same tiering scale, so a tier 4 Bass song is not considered to necessarily be harder than a tier 3 Guitar song. The two tierings are supposed to be separate in that regard.
Epsilon Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Agreed…it’s all relative to the instrument itself. Typically bass parts are easier across the board, so I often find 5-tier bass parts to be easier than even some tier 3 guitar parts, especially since you so rarely have to worry about tricky chord changes.
Nick Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Third’d. Just because they use the same peripheral doesn’t mean the tiers correspond. And disc-vs-dlc tiering is different as well.
First, they have to compare songs only to other songs on the disc, so some songs may be over/under-rated for the fact that they are harder/easier than other on-disc songs, but that doesn’t compare to everything else available by other means.
Second, the focus of a guitar and a bass are often different, but also doesn’t take into account that the guitar is general harder on a 5-button plastic guitar than the bass is, so a 3-pip guitar could (and often is) harder than a 5-pip bass part, although it could be the other way around too.
Honestly, I do not believe that the tiers are manually assigned, I believe they have some sort of algorithm they use for it, which they tweak for on-disc use. I’d love to see what it involves. Number of Notes? Note Density overall? Highest Note Density? Note/Chord Transition difficulty? Existence of chords (in bass)? Who knows, maybe some combination. And for vocals, it seems completely random for many songs.
Lord Mhoram Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I actually got a Fender Precision Bass, just so the instrument was unique. Doing the split up-strum, and holding hand over the guitar changes how it played enough for me that it really feels different – a completely different guitar experience.
I know it isn’t good for scores (the whole Whammy thing) – but I find it really helps separate Bass and Guitar when I play.
denyz Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
I bought a Precision Bass for the same reason. I’ve got 2 of the Wooden Fenders, but for bass parts, I love playing the split strum bar. (I added some weights to it for a “less toy” feel.) When playing the RHCP tracks it feels like I’m channeling just a little bit o’ Flea.
Nick Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
I love the p-bass, I play on it exclusively. Easily the best of the fake plastic guitars out there. Although I agree- not good for going for high scores due to the whammy knob. I divide the experience by playing bass on the upper keys and guitar on the solo keys (unless there is a bass solo in the song).
Those acoustic parts on Good Riddance are really not fun to play. mostly 3 or 2-chord parts that are hard to hit. I didn’t like it for that.
The Jaded part was just too tough for me. There are parts where you have to double-strum, then strum once, then double again. Screw that, I just strummed through the whole part. It’s hard enough to discern the pattern.
So does Oh Love work in GDRB or no?
Ospero Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Nope. Said so in the announcement, too.
boomsniper77 Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
No. Sorry.
HNPsquared Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Since GD:RB is pre-RB3, it will not work on that game.
Vampire-Jekyll Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Figured as much, would have been nice to see though.
Nick Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Probably because it has a keys part, at least from a technical perspective. Although it’d be nice if post-RB3 songs without keys/harmonies would work in RB1/2/Lego. Not that most longtime fans are probably still playing any of those.
Hayden Reply:
September 27th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Or all of them and just pretend the songs don’t have a keys part for earlier games. A patch to any older game could do this. But the new DLC likely doesn’t have lighting information for the old venues, and new songs are probably licensed for RB3 onward.
Vampire-Jekyll Reply:
September 28th, 2012 at 12:16 am
Wouldn’t it be hilarious to see HMX announce plans to release ‘Legacy Versions’ of newer songs? As like an april fools joke, ya’know?
Actually I could see that making some songs more fun to play in Blitz…
Bront Reply:
October 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am
To be fair, when GDRB was released, they said no further DLC would work in the game before they mentioned the RB3 DLC split.
dat banner image
What a waste of a perfectly good Gibson guitar.
ninjasweetheart Reply:
September 27th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
…and then he smashed it.