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RBN 2.0 Authoring Documents Are Now Available
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RBN 2.0 Authoring Documents Are Now Available

One of the last bastions of new content for older title Rock Band 2 looks to be getting ready to convert over to the newer Rock Band 3 format. While there is still no hard date set on when the changeover to the new RBN 2.0 format begins, the RBN 2.0 authoring documents were made available to the Creators community today.

From the average player’s standpoint, there were no big changes that we weren’t previously aware of. Much of the documentation that came out today was instruction for authors to construct their charting. One thing that @AnimeCow was the first to point out was that in the updated interface program between the PC and the console, Magma, Japanese was now listed as a selectable language for submitted tracks, meaning the infrastructure has made J-Rock in RBN 2.0 a reality.

For those that may have missed out on the details when they were first announced, RBN 2.0 will include all five-lane instruments from Rock Band 3 (vocals, guitar, bass, drums, and keys), as well as Harmonies, Pro Drums, and Pro Keys. Pro-Guitar and Pro-Bass will not be available at this time, but there is a possibility that it may be added in future iterations.

Rock Band 3 will have an update at some point in the future on the Xbox 360 that will add an “Audition Mode” in the Extras menu of Rock Band 3 for RBN 2.0 authors to play test and review their creations. A nice addition for those testing or reviewing tracks in Audition Mode is that the ability to skip backwards and forwards 30 seconds has been added via the console controller, as well as a way to cycle the camera and deploy overdrive, as well.

If you are an RBN author, head on over to theΒ full post on the Creators site to check out the new authoring documents. Everyone else… sit tight and you should see RBN content with additional features soon!

[creators.rockband.com]

61 Responses to “RBN 2.0 Authoring Documents Are Now Available”

  • Skydog says:

    Will there be charted bass solos (if any) in RBN2.0? Just wondering πŸ™‚

    • rob@fairwood says:

      I’m pretty sure. The documents for guitar and bass are combined, so it’s not like the bass documents have been updated to reflect the addition, but there’s absolutely no reason they won’t show up.

  • zero.echelon says:

    JRock on Rock Band?
    Yes please πŸ˜‰

  • Dorkmaster Flek says:

    Sweet! Nothing we didn’t know already, but it’s cool to see the final docs available. The addition of Japanese as an available language is a nice touch.

  • brownies4all says:

    IT’S ABOUT TIME!!!! Really excited for this!

    And Japanese support is definitely a plus.

  • iruhlman says:

    Sweet but still waiting so I can release my stuff with Pro Guitar charts. Wish we could have a 7 string version πŸ˜‰

  • Stephen says:

    The lack of Harmonix’s support for pro guitar is disturbing…hopefully it picks up after the Squier comes out…

    • RockBandAide says:

      “Disturbing” probably not the correct word.

      Harmonix has said that for each song, making the Pro-Guitar/Bass charts is as time-consuming as making all the other charts combined. So if you were a business that made two similar products with equal costs, but your customers bought a much higher volume of product A (5-lane DLC) versus product B (Pro-Guitar/Bass), you would focus more on product A, as well.

      There is a direct relationship between the quantity of Pro-Guitar/Bass charts produced and the quantity sold. If you want Harmonix to produce more Pro-Guitar/Bass charts, make sure to buy as many as possible.

      • Wendell says:

        The availability of PRO-Guitar/Bass charts is a chicken and egg problem that can only realistically be dealt with by Harmonix. Expecting the fans to establish a critical mass of demand with the current scant availability of tracks is like pushing on a string.

      • Deca says:

        Yeah see the problem with your whole argument is that his issue was with RBN not supporting pro charting, which has absolutely nothing to do with Harmonix charting anything.

        I’m guessing the reason that they don’t want RBN people making pro string charts is that the vast majority of RBN content seems to be metal of…questionable/varying quality. If RBN is allowed to release pro charts I’d bet the vast majority would be impossible metal guitar leads that nobody really wants to play to begin with. If that starts to outnumber the more reasonable beginner-friendly and genre varied pro charting from HMX themselves, a lot of potential buyers will be scared off or uninterested.

        • RickC32 says:

          There are 800+ songs on RBN. 200-something are listed under metal. How is that the “vast majority”? I do not understand where this everything-on-RBN-is-metal meme came from. Really, as a metalhead, I WISH the vast majority of RBN was metal. It is not.

          • TakeshiSkunk says:

            Just look at the last several months worth of content, at least 2/3 is definitely metal of various kinds, I’m sure it’s not all technically “metal,” but it’s a particular group of genres and a particular general style of music.

            Now maybe RBN releases haven’t always been like this, but you can’t tell me it hasn’t been a trend, especially since the release of RB3.

        • RockBandAide says:

          You don’t have to guess on why RBN does not have Pro-Guitar/Bass. Harmonix has already addressed it: http://www.rockbandaide.com/7608/rock-band-network-2-0-announced/

    • iruhlman says:

      sadly I haven’t bought a single RBN track since RB3 released and I’m not alone

      • RickC32 says:

        I have bought more RBN than DLC since RB3 came out. And I am not alone. John Lennon, Paul McCartney, The Bee Gees, Billy Joel, Johnny Cash. Great music, but I do not think anyone has ever listened to it and gone, “Man, this music really ROCKS.”

        • Skydog says:

          Billy Joel did πŸ™‚

        • Croq says:

          Uh, I think you’d be wrong there RickC32. Billy Joel definitely “ROCKS” as do all the others you’ve listed. Just because it may not be “ROCK” doesn’t mean it doesn’t “ROCK”.

          Unlike you and iruhlman, I have bought MUCH more DLC in the last few months than any other time in the history of RB. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t *only* buy non-new stuff, I have plenty of that. I am just REALLY happy to see these MAJOR acts get added (or get more tracks added) to RB.

          I have nearly 1200 tracks in my library across the games and DLC, and have a *huge* variety of songs, though I do tend to shy away from harder metal, and rap’s really not my thing. I have alternative, blues, classic rock, country, disco, emo, glam, grunge, indie rock, jazz, metal, new wave, nu metal, pop rock, reggae, soul, progressive, punk, rock, and southern rock. And that’s just the genres for my DLC. RBN and disk exports are also pretty varied though.

  • Trav says:

    Aw what the hell. xD I pointed out the Japanese thing to the cow! Haha.

  • Tisaric says:

    Err, check the date posted on the blog…

    I’m sorry, but this is kind of old news.
    Now, when we get info on the new Magma and Reaper plug-ins, I’m hoping I can get it first from here. πŸ˜€

    • RockBandAide says:

      Magma was updated today. I believe a number of the documents changed, as well, but I may be mistaken. They were news to me, so I added them here.

    • Tisaric says:

      Oh, sorry. I didn’t read the post all the way through, there ARE two new documents posted today.

  • BravoGangUS says:

    Now that Japanese will be available for RBN 2.0…

    We need some K-On (Ho-kago Tea Time) DLC!

  • Novaihcs says:

    No portuguese yet? #FAIL

  • QuestionMark says:

    Does the addition of Japanese imply that Japanese language characters may be used or just English transliterations?

    • Deca says:

      I can almost guarantee you it will all be romanji. They wouldn’t include kana without the option to use romanji, and I doubt they’ll include an option that only accommodates Japanese language vocal charts.

      • QuestionMark says:

        Plus it’d be kind of weird to see kanji or the other alphabets scrolling toward the left. πŸ™‚

        • Polite says:

          Why? I’ve been to plenty of asian karaoke places where it scrolls kanji and other asian languages in the same way it does english.

          • QuestionMark says:

            Was not aware of that. I was under the impression that it was written vertically up to down and right to left. Wikipedia just informed me that English influence has largely negated the right left orientation.

            Live and learn.

    • S1ckH4nds says:

      As confirmed on the Creators site, all Japanese lyrics would need to be transliterated to romanji. The game engine simply does not support katakana, hiragana, or any sort of kanji.

  • RickC32 says:

    I sure as heck hope Breakneck Speed is available in the audition mode in RB3. The lack of BNS in RB2’s audition mode made it useless. Of course, with BNS not working in Practice Mode in RB3, and thus making Practice Mode useless in RB3, it seems like HMX has no interest in catering to the vast number of players who use BNS. In particular, the large amount of metal on RBN makes BNS extremely helpful in preventing the charts from getting cluttered and making the game more playable and more fun. Once you get used to BNS, you will HATE normal speed. It will feel like you are stuck in a traffic jam.

    • S1ckH4nds says:

      “The lack of BNS in RB2’s audition mode made it useless.”

      How so? The creator’s community has been thriving with well over 800 songs released since its launch, all of which had to have been playtested and reviewed at least six times. Obviously the lack of BNS in audition mode is hardly a hindrance to the people that it was meant for, ie, authors and testers. If you’re looking at audition mode as a means for casual playing, that’s not its intended purpose. Might as well complain that it doesn’t allow for online play either.

    • RockBandAide says:

      Also, I think you are overestimating the “vast number” of players who use BNS.

    • Ospero says:

      And when I once accidentally activated BNS, I felt like I had just been hit by a fast stream while swimming. Different strokes and all that.

  • Cian says:

    Hopefully this means we’ll see “Blue” by Eiffel 65 and “Airbrushed” by Anamanaguchi soon.

    Also Japanese language support = WIN.

  • Joe Shredder says:

    Wow – is that venue select? Wonder why we don’t have that in game…

  • Christian says:

    I see you’re able to choose venues in Audition mode. Give that to the rest of us please HMX!

    • HundredDollarHeadache says:

      Seconding this. I HATE being sent to grimy little dive bars like the Charles Pub and De Magische Tuin, and especially video shoots.

  • Moryce says:

    “Pro Drums, and Pro Keys. Pro-Guitar and Pro-Bass will not be available at this time”

    is Pro Drums already supported ?

  • Mark says:

    It will be interesting (and demoralising) to see how HMX will integrate this into the PS3. I would hope that We would get another shop with RBN2.0 songs and we get some weekly based on top 360 sellers. I hope they don’t just stop giving us RBN songs because there’s still some great songs that haven’t come to PSN however I don’t want to have the same gap between 360 releases and PSN releases as we do now.

    • RockBandAide says:

      Until Sony opens up an independent developer program similar to Microsoft’s XNA on the Xbox 360, there’s no reason anything would change.

      • libregkd says:

        I think he’s wondering is that, once RBN 2.0 is released(and songs passed the 30 day period) will HMX stop releasing original RBN songs to the other consoles.

        My guess would be yes. I think HMX is more would be more inclined to release songs that are more feature rich and “new” than songs that have been released using RBN. Which is a shame because that means that there are a lot of great songs that will never see the light of day on another console.

  • Chaos says:

    How about harmonies? Are they supported yet?